[trotro]

Porn. What you're missing is porn.

Or generally, anything that's much better experienced directly than through a screen. Think about virtually hiking Mt Everest, diving the Mariana Trench, walking on Mars, etc. The technology certainly isn't there yet, but I can imagine a future where for a majority of the population, especially those with lower income, VR provides the only affordable* escape from reality.

* In a few years obviously, $3500 is far from affordable.

[nologic01]

> Porn. What you're missing is porn.

I suppose this means that Apple is aiming for the high end of that market while Meta for the coin-operated booths? :-)

[scrum-treats]

> Porn. What you're missing is porn.

This is correct. With the ability to mimic touch, the VR NSFW avenues are set to explode.

[drewmol]

Explode?!? Do you think people who don’t already pay for porn/sexual IOT devices/digital sexual pleasure content will start to enter this emerging market? Do you think the same customer base will drastically increase spending?

- I’m genuinely curious and surprised by the confidence.

[sebzim4500]

I'm sure there are millions of people who visit pornhub that would never have visited a pornographic cinema (or whatever they were called).

[drewmol]

Agreed. But there are much fewer people who pay for pornhub. Fewer who would buy a $3500 device just for a more immersive pornhub experience. I highly doubt these people are in apple’s target market.

[dylan604]

But there a enough people paying for other devices that enhance. Full on silicon body molds of your favorite performer, remote devices to allow for others to stimulate you, get them all connected into an app so that both participants can interact and you have the sexual encounter these people can only dream of

[scrum-treats]

I think it is easy to severely underestimate the number of persons who engage with porn and NSFW content everyday, along with the volume of content.

One quick glance at the Reddit hysteria will show that people are particularly bummed about the NSFW changes. Like, really bummed. Same with Pornhub limiting its service in Utah, and people of Utah immediately learning what VPNs are. Additionally, there are human trafficking rings around the world that thrive for a reason (e.g., Epstein). With VR you have sensorimotor gadgets you can sync to your virtual world, and it is completely immersive. As you become desensitized to one fetish, you can purchase a new fetish experience. Porn is a lucrative path.

For me, I like humans, the "in real life" kind to be exact. So it's not a hot selling point, for me. I do like to study how humans "human." And porn is front and center for many people, for all sorts of different reasons.

[crakhamster01]

Reminds me of this GQ video with Lil Dicky where he listed the Oculus Quest as one of the 10 things he couldn't live without

https://youtu.be/eqAcVASDZ3g?t=470

[spaceman_2020]

Honestly, at what point will you need regulators to step in? It’s pretty clear that we have a little porn addiction epidemic. And there’s increasing evidence of the harmful effects of porn.

And that’s happening with the current state of porn - often viewed on small phone screens in less than even HD quality.

I can’t imagine what would happen to young people once porn is viewable in a lifelike virtual reality. I can imagine an entire generation of young men dropping out of society altogether (something that’s already happening)

[spacemadness]

I love that we’ve gone from “is anyone going to buy this?” to “would someone think of the children, this is going to destroy society.”

[locustous]

The reality is that the phone is, and will be, the far more dangerous a vector for porn because of how ubiquitous and convenient it is. The wow factor of this device won't move the needle much here, particularly at this price.

Yes, some will use it for this. Porn use is never satisfied so the addicts that are always looking for bigger hits will find some here. But they are already in it's grasp. Very few to nobody will start it on this device, and that is where the primary battle is located.

Kids, on phones, far away from the supervision of their parents.

[spaceman_2020]

Do you think the devices will be that bulky and that expensive by 2035 too?