[alex_lav]

If you move the goalposts or are vague enough, anything can be true. Working from home is worse for the environment than abolishing capitalism, which is the driving force behind global warming.

See? Conversation is useless if we ignore context or intent.

[bbor]

…I don’t think that’s what “moving the goalposts” means? What were the goalposts?

I was just observing that WFH is better for the environment than WFO, which I would again say is just an objective fact. Obviously peoples priorities differ, and I guess some people don’t see climate change as real so would fight me on it being a fact, but I feel completely certain about that assertion.

Re: capitalism, I mean, yeah… isn’t that also true? Much much more subjective but capitalism sure seems to be doing a number on the planet. Again what we want to do with that fact is up to priorities but… well tbh I’m confused about what you’re cross about!

[ffgjgf1]

It’s not like the USSR cared about the environment even the tiniest bit..

Under capitalism at least you get free speech and therefore some public pressure to impose various regulations.

[bbor]

Capitalism has nothing to do with freedom of speech. See: capitalist countries without freedom of speech.

[ffgjgf1]

Free market competition is impossible without some degree of free speech, so it depends on how you define ‘capitalism’