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by browningstreet 1112 days ago
MSM media is always trying to convince people they can live longer if they stick with coffee, berries, dark chocolate and wine — as if those foods needed boosters. And if true I’m quite sure we’d have people out there living to 150…
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People are very receptive and willing to share your articles around when you tell them they're better off keeping enjoying they current lifestyle.
They have an incentive to boost "forbidden pleasure" foods that are popular with their subscribers. The subscribers get an excuse to do what they are already doing, the article feels dramatic because of the fake controversy, and the article is a little more viral by pretending to tell people something secret or surprising.
You probably can live longer if you stick with coffee (black), berries (minus the food you put the berries on top of), dark chocolate (unsweetened), and wine (in strict moderation).
Alcohol is a carcinogen, so if you’re optimizing for “living longer” you should take exactly 0 mL a day.

If you’re optimizing for living happier, on the other hand…

Oxygen is a carcinogen, now what...
That’s why we recently decided to cut its presence in the atmosphere by dramatically increasing CO2.

But as usual, inhale in small amounts only. There might be a cure coming at some point, but don’t hold your breath.

:^)

Now do weed.
Genome-wide DNA methylation association study of recent and cumulative marijuana use in middle aged adults https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-023-02106-y
And in general, if you’re smoking it…
There is no such thing as 0 tollerance. Don't believe the anti-alcohol hype. There is such thing as hormesis, for basically any poison.
Evidence for hormesis is not convincing.
That is not true. Hormesis is a fact.
Can you link to some evidence I may have overlooked?
Dark chocolate isn't exactly the safest food, even unsweetened:

https://time.com/6243073/heavy-metals-dark-chocolate-food/

For those curious, here's the report linked in that article:

https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-safety/lead-and-...

A similar problem exists with Polonium-210 uptake in tobacco... although no one ever called tobacco healthy or safe. I basically live on dark chocolate, wine, red meat and tobacco, so we'll see what gets me first.

I guess the would matter on where in the world too the cocoa was grown. In the Caribbean the soil wouldn't have heavy metals.
Add to that the high oxalate content in dark chocolate.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S08891...

The third most common cause of death in the United States, at least before COVID was a thing, is "accidental self-inflicted injury."

Heart Disease and Cancer, most in old age, are the top two.

Making micro adjustments to your diet just doesn't stand a chance at making a meaningful difference.

I'd really like to see that category broken down by sobriety. The overwhelming majority of my accidental self-inflicted injuries have happened when I was drinking. Broken shoulder (let's have sex on the arm of this chair... oops, it has wheels), broken kneecap (running upstairs), partially severed thumb (sure, I'll just open this plastic case with a knife!)...
The suggestion you're replying to was basically "cut out a ton of extra sugar" which would quite likely have an impact on heart disease.
Instead of wine I'd go with resveratrol directly.
The people I know who talk about these items the most vocally also frequently have fast food.