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by jonfw 1105 days ago
An important difference is that the US government doesn't have a "god credential", they have to request the data (and there is a process to request the data involving courts, etc.)

Meanwhile, govt officials in China appear to have unrestricted access
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sfjailbird 1105 days ago
> the US government doesn't have a "god credential"

Why are you so quick to believe they don't, and that China does?

> process to request the data involving courts

Secret courts that rubberstamp agency requests without oversight.

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CrackerNews 1105 days ago
An opaque process of secret courts with secret decisions may be different legally, but in spirit it does not seem that significantly different to me in terms of preventing overreach and abuse.
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black_puppydog 1105 days ago
Especially if you happen to not be a US citizen, in which case there are no actual safeguards anyhow.

IMHO this mirrors nicely the situation of a US citizen being concerned that the Chines govt won't protect their rights. This is how most of the world sees the US "checks" and "balances".

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inglor_cz 1105 days ago
Even though I loathe spying, I must admit that the US (or any country for that matter) does not really have any natural or legal obligations to respect privacy of foreigners abroad.

It is their own business to protect it themselves.

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black_puppydog 1105 days ago
Yeah, but then don't expect people to show much compassion when the same thing happens the other way around and the US immediately cries wolf.
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inglor_cz 1105 days ago
Not an American, and I don't. Big countries throwing tantrums is somewhat ludicrous anyway.
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salawat 1105 days ago
The "secret" part there undoes pretty much your entire contention.

That which doesn't see the light of day may as well not even exist.

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mensetmanusman 1105 days ago
How many families are disappeared annually for the wrong political statements in the US?
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yencabulator 1105 days ago
What's the practical difference between AT&T "god credentials" and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A ?
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aaomidi 1105 days ago
unless they slap “patriot act” on it.

I’ve lived in Iran, I really don’t see much of a difference in how the US operates. The U.S. just does more paperwork to justify their shit.

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