[_hypx]

This problem can be solved by making hydrogen. So there is a way to power society with renewables if you are willing accept the need for baseload power. Of course, renewable energy fanatics do not accept this fact, and often are ideologically opposed to hydrogen. This is in spite of the fact that only hydrogen can save renewables from this problem.

[pjc50]

> This problem can be solved by making hydrogen

Again, nobody seems to be making hydrogen from renewable energy at scale yet despite there being a real industrial market for it. Including steel reduction, which would be a great use-case! But it's not happening because water cracking to hydrogen has a really high capital cost.

[_hypx]

Again, you are simply unaware of what is happening. It is very similar to how anti-solar analysts simply failed to recognize the widespread deployment of PV panels around a decade ago.

[AnimalMuppet]

A pointer to some documentation about what is happening would be useful - more useful than an analogy about something in history.

[_hypx]

The reference is literally google news search: https://www.google.com/search?q=green+hydrogen&tbm=nws&sa=X&...

You'll get hundreds if not thousands of references.

[AnimalMuppet]

So this is a pet peeve of mine. I can google that as easily as you can. But:

1. You made the claim. It's appropriate that you do the work to back it up.

2. A post is read more times than it is written. If you (the author) do the work, the work gets done once. If we, the readers, do the work, it's done multiple times.

So both efficiency and "burden of proof" say that you should do that search. In fact, you should have done it about 10 or 20 posts earlier.

[_hypx]

You can just google it. Or bing it or whatever, since Google sucks these days.

It's happening everywhere now. Like I said, this is akin to someone demanding proof that there's war in Ukraine right now.

[KptMarchewa]

Small scale research papers are not reality. Where are the gigawatt-sized installations?