[account42]

WebP and libwebp/cwebp is such a clusterfuck. Lossless mode isn't even visually lossless because cwebp doesn't understand how PNGs encode color space information. Default lossy settings are extremely garbage for darker (parts of images) images - a problem that has plagued video codecs (which is what webp is based on) for a long time. Animated webp is ridiculously inefficient compared to webm and really shouldn't be a thing at all in favor of allowing silent+looping videos in image tags. And of course initial webp browser implementations don't even support animated webp but still claim support for image/webp so you can't even do progressive enhancement from gif to animated webp without hardcoding which browsers support what.

At this point it should really just be deprecated in favor of JPEG XL. And let's skip AVIF completely please.

[cjawdb]

100% agree. I'd say JXL is going to be the closest thing we get to a universal image format for quite some time. Almost completely superior to JPEG/PNG/GIF/WebP/etc. and clearly superior to AVIF in basically every way except very low bitrates and animation (which... just use HTML5 video with AV1 webms, what are you even doing?).

Oh, and adoption rates, but considering JXL's standard was finalized less than a year ago and it's already gotten support in so many things and from so many large companies, I really don't see any way that it fails other than Google abusing their monopolistic position in the browser engine space. The people arguing against adding support for a brand new codec because it doesn't magically have 100% support is circular reasoning and feels very disingenuous considering WebP and AVIF were never held to the same standard.

[ksec]

>At this point it should really just be deprecated in favor of JPEG XL. And let's skip AVIF completely please.

You say that now, try doing that between 2020 all the way to 2022 you get attacked by AOM Strike Force.