[ptico]

The mentioned Baikal company is a supplier for russian army. The guy behind the patch every morning go to the work, knowing his job will help to launch the missiles to the Ukrainian cities killing children. Other IT companies participate as well: Yandex is a part of state propaganda machine, Kaspersky is working with FSB and military, etc. All their workers know what they are working on.

Just a part of the story: https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1584607815968395264 — this is all just a regular "Smart IT people"

What is happening here is whitewashing a genocide machine many of russians are part of

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But what about other armies and their suppliers? They don't kill children/innocents too?

I guess the whole point seems to be that people (companies) "does not take similar measures against other countries who wage wars which have caused way more deaths and displacement of individuals".

[ptico]

Can you name any war which caused the "way more deaths and displacement of individuals" since WW2? Can you name a country which commit genocide on a state level? Can you name a country which committed at least half of war crimes committed during last 1.5 years? Have you seen at least one world leader or government official who openly declare the target of eliminating some nation's existence?

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You ask a lot controvertial things that have nothing to do with what I said, and appealing to feelings. Why?

Also, your questions are apparently laid in a way so everything has to fit in order to not accept a commit, or requiring to know exactly how many war crimes have been commited to answer about "the half". Asking many questions like that is a known tactic I don't appreciate.

I'm not talking about numbers, or "which is worst". I'm talking about a guy going to work knowing that his work can kill innocents (yes, even working in/for the US too), and having his patches accepted, as a contractor (or in the supply chain) for some army.

Not everything is good/bad, right/wrong. It's a very ingenuous way to look at the world, and there are a lot of conflicts going on right now (for example https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/). Are you tracking all of them? For the last 10 or 20 years too?

[ptico]

There is a huge difference between "[potentially] can kill innocents" and "deliberately kill civilians every day".

There is a lot of conflicts have been in the last 70 years indeed, but author (and your cite) says: "does not take similar measures against other countries who wage wars which have caused way more deaths and displacement of individuals" and I'm pointing that this is a false statement, because not author nor you can't name any one

[ptico]

The author is russian, have no more questions here

[AnonCoward42]

> The mentioned Baikal company is a supplier for russian army. The guy behind the patch every morning go to the work, knowing his job will help to launch the missiles to the Ukrainian cities killing children.

Given that the bombardment of east Ukraine preceded the 24.02.22 (by a few years), I hope you have the same standard for Ukrainians then.

> What is happening here is whitewashing a genocide machine many of russians are part of

"genocide" by Ukrainians is okay tho? Because you're very specific here that it only applies to Russians here while ignoring (and therefore whitewashing) Ukrainian acts of war that precede 24.02.22 against their own population.

[ptico]

I'm from east Ukraine. Don't even try to tell me

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> "genocide" by Ukrainians is okay tho? Because you're very specific here that it only applies to Russians here while ignoring (and therefore whitewashing) Ukrainian acts of war that precede 24.02.22 against their own population.

There was no genocide by Ukrainians in Donbass, this Russian propaganda has been a persistent narrative that has any had a single word of truth to it.

365 civilians had died in the Donbas conflict between 2016-2022.

8,400 civilians have died in the war in Ukraine in ~1.5 years bits been happening.

[AnonCoward42]

> There was no genocide by Ukrainians in Donbass, this Russian propaganda has been a persistent narrative that has any had a single word of truth to it.

I used double-quotes, mostly because both sides claim a genocide. It's clear that both are at war. A dirty fact of war is that civilians are going to die in the war and both sides are going to lie about every aspect of the war. That is not different this time and we ("the west") are not a neutral observer.

This war feels forced especially with the western interference in the coup-d'état that led to the banishment of Yanukovych. The western narratives surrounding it make no sense at all, but we can probably agree that an elected government was replaced by a movement funded by EU and helped by the US.

We ("the west") forgot the value of peace I think or respectively what war entails.