[wombatpm]

Another Hard Disagree. I put everything thing in writing. If it’s not written down it didn’t happen.

Want access to prod? Sure give me a ticket. I don’t trust any place that doesn’t want things written down.

And the example of a drug trial comment being taken out of context? If it looks bad in a few years maybe it should also look bad now? And maybe steps should be taken to make it better now.

Writing things down, keeping copies of emails is the only way to hold management accountable.

[tsimionescu]

In my country, there were some major anti-government protests a few years ago that pro-government media claimed were paid for by Sorosz and other such figures. My colleagues and I attended these protests and often talked about them. We also often joked about these claims by asking each other if the checks had arrived, how much they had made last night etc.

Of course, if our internal chats were subject to [the local equivalent of] FOIA requests, this would have been incredibly risky, since without the context of how much we laughed about them, the texts themselves would have looked like smoking guns. Government media would have had a field day.

This is the benign sort of thing you want to avoid putting in writing if your writing can be audited by motivated outside parties.

[nl]

> Want access to prod? Sure give me a ticket. I don’t trust any place that doesn’t want things written down.

And this is a great example of the difference between an operational role that runs on tickets and management responsibilities.

Management is all about trade-offs and compromises. By their very nature trade-offs can almost always be presented as a bad thing.

[speakfreely]

> Want access to prod? Sure give me a ticket. I don’t trust any place that doesn’t want things written down.

Being a sysadmin is very different than being part of the executive team that develops strategy.

[emodendroket]

Might there be a difference between an access request and an extemporaneous conversation?