[flusensieb]

Errr... I think there are a thousand developers talking about how AI doesn't help them, so I don't think that's a good argument.

My personal experience is: - Writing some boilerplate/copy-paste testing code might turn out fine, but I still need to check it and that takes more mental effort than to just copy-paste-adapt with well-known keyboard shortcuts. - Writing business-relevant production code that is readable, maintainable and concise: Forget AI (at least for now).

On good days I try to use and adapt to LLM-generated code, but at the end of the day, when I have to get things done I turn them off: It's easier to reflect and build a complex system without someone constantly "trying" to bullshit you... After all the LLM does not (yet?) know about all the details, the why and all other things that produce something readable, correct and concise.

[andrewstuart]

If a programmer can get no value from AI then they aren't trying hard enough, or they are dramatically overvaluing their capabilities.

I wouldn't hire a programmer who said they don't use AI because it doesn't help them.

[gregjor]

My grandmother -- a talented chef -- refused to eat fast food or frozen meals. Perhaps she overvalued her capabilities or didn't try hard enough.

I don't use "AI" to help me write code, it doesn't help me enough to offset the constant context switching, and then having to double-check what it spits out. For the same reason, I don't have a junior-level human assistant to pair with because that would slow me down.

Thanks for the heads-up, so those of us not getting enough value out of "AI" (about half according to the other comments) know not to apply. I have worked for plenty of managers and executives who can't write a memo or a spec as well as ChatGPT, I suspect those jobs will go to "AI" before my prospects dry up.

[flusensieb]

There's a little gap between a programmer saying he "gets no value" from AI and "turning programming into a completely different process".

I'm sure AI will close that gap ;)

[dinvlad]

Sometimes people mistake convenience for something being good for them. I can conveniently do so many things in life without having to figure them out by myself, and they may indeed save me time and effort. Doesn’t mean it’s good for me or improves my own value proposition.