[ARandumGuy]

All day is the key component. Most VR headsets recommend taking breaks every half hour, which isn't just a "cover your ass" warning. I know I can't use my personal headset for much longer without feeling woozy after I take it off.

By comparison, I'm at my laptop for 7+ hours just for work. I would need to see compelling evidence that the Vision Pro is safe and comfortable to use for that long before I'd even consider replacing my laptop. And if it can't replace the computers or displays I use, then it's just a $3,500 gimmick.

[asdff]

To be fair you are supposed to get up, walk around, and refocus your eyes on something far away every 20 mins or so no matter what computer you are using.

[BowBun]

But that isn't fair, since we know a vast majority of all-day computer users don't do this. The impact that a screen inches from your eyeballs has on you physically is simply higher, although both carry costs.

[brookst]

Headsets focus your eyes much further away than desktop monitors.

Standing and walking, though, they're still going to be important.

[qintl55]

They say that the battery on that is ~2 hours (?) So probably not for work yet.

[gnicholas]

I work sitting in a chair, looking at a screen. If I were to work using one of these, I would just plug it in like my computer and screen currently are. Though it would be nice to go outside and work in my hammock, on a gigantic floating screen!

[RandallBrown]

Depending on your work, I imagine you'll still want a desk for typing.

I can't imagine writing code using only my voice.

[gnicholas]

I have a lap desk with a BT keyboard and trackpad. I assume I'd want to bring the keyboard to my imaginary hammock desk. The trackpad (and lap desk) might not be necessary, assuming that pointer manipulation can be done via gestures.

I agree that dictation would not be enough for most people. I don't code, but writing emails is not a fun experience with Apple's current speech-to-text offerings.

[golergka]

They have just integrated transformers into autocorrect though

[gnicholas]

That may help, but it won't fix the fact that there's not an easy syntax for editing words/phrases as you go, or at least not as efficiently as you can edit on a computer. They do offer some ways to do this if you use certain accessibility features, but without those turned on it is very difficult (if not impossible) to edit text with your voice. Perhaps they will open this up a bit for the new OS, since many people will use it sans keyboard.

[citruscomputing]

Coding by voice is pretty doable, actually! Check out Talon if you're interested.

[FabHK]

As the excellent video "Windows Vista Speech Recognition Tested - Perl Scripting" hilariously demonstrates.

(I trust that technology has improved over the last 15 years, though Siri is fairly similar.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzJ0CytAsec

[cyphereal]

I can - telling CodeGPT what I'd like it to do.

[paxys]

If we ever reach that stage then why would you have a job at all? Anyone can tell ChatGPT what to do.

[CamperBob2]

You might as well ask why the Army needs officers and not just privates.

[c1b]

Its AR

[mostlysimilar]

It can be plugged in for all-day use.

[asdff]

You can buy two or three and swap them out. Chicken scratch for a company when engineers cost so much these days anyhow.

[xp84]

I was disappointed to see that the battery cord, with the magnetic headset-side connector, seemed hardwired at the battery end. Though this is very in character for Apple. You can bet that each "battery with proprietary cord tail" will be at least $199. Look what they charge for an iPhone "battery pack" -- a $2 ring of magnets, a $5 battery, and a bit of plastic = $99.

Given the initial cost is so high, it's both frustrating that they will continue to nickel and dime you, and at the same time unlikely that someone dropping that kind of money will even blink at buying an accessory which actually is less than the sales tax on the device itself.

[derefr]

Who cares how much the Apple battery pack costs? Does literally anybody buy Apple's own MagSafe accessories instead of getting cheap third-party ones?

I feel like this is similar to the Mac Pro coaster wheels: a case of consumers getting upset about something that was never meant to be sold "ala carte" to individuals in the first place; but rather only exists to be purchased in bulk on the Apple Business Store by institutional buyers who wants every component to be under warranty and able to be returned for depreciation, and who don't even look at the cost breakdown before clicking "Buy."

[xp84]

> Who cares how much the Apple battery pack costs?

Since I wrote this, I have seen a screenshot that implies that a USB-C dongle might exist (in box? Who knows), which would allow plugging in normal batteries with a normal cable, but I can explain good reasons to get upset about this kind of thing:

When they use a proprietary connector on the top end and hardwire it to the battery on the other end, that creates a ton of problems:

1. Fraying cable? Chuck the good Li-ion battery in the trash and buy a new $200 one! Apple loves the Earth so much :)

2. The proprietary connectors are probably patent-encumbered, meaning the only ones available third-party are either overpriced because they're paying a steep MFi royalty, or they're made by fly-by-night Chinese companies with no quality control. This is the entire history of the Lightning (and Dock) connectors. With those, they added on DRM chips IN the cables too. That useless increased complexity makes the 3rd-party alternatives worse and unreliable because they have to reverse-engineer the standard. Everybody who has ever bought a 3rd-party Lightning cable has experienced this failure mode. So, many consumers absolutely do pay $20 a pop for Apple-branded cables, or they (absurdly, in my opinion) carry around the single, delicate Apple cable from their device box from place to place until it fails, and then buy another one.

Another perfect example of this is the Watch. Apple chose to make that a closed proprietary standard instead of using USB or publishing specs. They offer a couple models of crappy first-party chargers, one of which costs a fortune. I bought third-party Watch + phone combo chargers years ago. When Apple switched to USB-C Watch chargers, the watches in that generation and after will only charge incredibly slowly over the course of about 8 hours using any USB-A Apple charger, or any third-party charger -- chargers which worked quickly on the old watches. It's impossible to tell now which third-party Watch charger sold today might use the "newer" standard, or even really to know what changed! The only solution is to re-buy a bunch of first-party obnoxious pucks-with-a-cable-hardwired for $25 a piece.

[imwillofficial]

Facts

[utopcell]

The problem is not the cost, it's the experience. You _could_ be carrying multiple laptop batteries with you also. It would make the laptop itself lighter and thinner, but it would be a larger hassle overall.

[briandear]

You can plug it in directly too. It’s not just battery packs.

[interestica]

They did mention that their dual chip pipeline/low latency reduces the "woozy" effects (because it lines up better with what your brain is expecting I guess). It will be interesting to see