[moelf]

Apple TV is one of those apple devices you can't use unless you're "apple enough" -- you can't even set it up without having an iOS device to do 2FA.

[khazhoux]

Correct. Apple products are really not meant to be used as one-offs if you are otherwise in Android/whatever ecosystem.

[KptMarchewa]

I'm happily using macbook, and would not use it if it required me to use ios or any other device.