[bluGill]

The two need to work together. The switch on the wall needs to be smart as anyone in my house needs to be able to use it to control the bulbs, without having to open an app. Okay, if you can ensure a thief cannot control my lights while I'm my house I'm good with that, but I have kids, guests, and sometimes I don't have a device on me: it must work for all of them the first time and every time. A bulb cannot do that alone, it must have a smart switch (I've used the flip the switch off/on to control the bulb - it is not an acceptable work around).

The bulb however need the ability to charge color temperature and brightness depending on what I want, and a smart bulb seems best (though dumb dimming bulbs can to work well enough)

[bombcar]

What I'd love to see (and nobody makes, but I could make one myself with a bunch of switches I guess) is to have various plain bulbs of different colors, and control them with the switch.

I wish the Hue bulbs worked with a actual smart switch (I have some of the snap on cover ones and they are "ok" but unsatisfying long-term.

https://www.philips-hue.com/en-us/p/hue-tap-dial-switch/0466... is silly, it's battery powered. The old one (Hue Tap) was great, because it used the force of the button press to send the signal needed: https://hueblog.com/2020/07/27/hue-tap-disappears-from-the-m...

So of course it's dead and gone :(