[jackson1442]

Agreed, though I have to say Phillips Hue lights have been well worth the money in this regard. I have some Lutron switches that snap over my standard flip-switches which prevents accidentally cutting power to the bulbs, and the switches talk directly to the lights (or perhaps through the hub, it's been a while since I've set it up) rather than through a server.

With HomeKit this all also works as long as my local network is up, with no dependency on Apple servers except for off-network access.

My ISP has had several outages, but I haven't run into the issue of "the lights don't work" at all yet. Only thing approaching this is I've automated them to turn on/off when I arrive at and leave home, so when I have people over and step out to run a quick errand all the lights turn off while they're at my place.

[bombcar]

Hue works the best of all that I’ve tried for sure. But when we use Siri to control the living room lights, Internet access is needed. The Hue app still works if needed (most of the time) and the little no-battery physical switches keep working with Hue.

But it just doesn’t provide “value” compared to the cost, so I’m not going to rip it out but I won’t maintain it further or expand it.