| > It's hard to pass a law that protects these people because they are outside of the legal system by being undocumented It's really not. Don't deport people who file labor complaints. You can protect undocumented workers quite easily. > Most of the people that are caught up in this situation came without a visa so please don't conflate the two. I don't care if they came without a visa or overstayed a visa or literally walked across the border. I think borders are arbitrary and see very little difference anyways. > I'm saying that pretending like having open borders and having all these undocumented workers and turning the blind eye necessary leads to exploration. You are claiming something to be inherent when it is not. Illegal immigration does not create exploitation. Threat of deportation creates exploitation. If the threat of employer retaliation didn't exist, if illegal immigrants were educated about our labor laws, there would not be as much exploitation. It's really simple, I feel that you are being obtuse. > This is the same logic that thinks it's compassionate to let mentally ill people sleep on the streets and self medicate Nobody thinks it is compassionate to "let" people live on the streets, they just don't think cops should forcibly remove the homeless. Compassion would be giving them housing and treatment, but you wont see many "liberals" supporting free no strings attached housing. If by self-medicating you mean harm reduction by giving opioid addicts heroin then I wouldn't say that is compassionate, just the bare minimum. When the alternative is them overdosing on fent or dying from withdrawals. I think you haven't really thought very hard about these things because your arguments are very tired and simplistic. The answer is not more cruelty, nor is it the half-measures you see in San Francisco or Seattle or whatever. The policy solutions are pretty simple and are supported by empirical evidence in many countries and case studies. |