[leobg]

Thanks not the full argument, actually. The argument is:

You’ll need to solve vision anyway. Because you need to know what the object is. Is it a trash can or is it a dog? Will it move or stay?

If you had LiDAR, you’d still need sensor fusion with a camera to answer those questions, introducing more problems.

That’s why Elon says that any company that relies on LiDAR is doomed. LiDAR isn’t the gold standard - it’s the low hanging fruit.

[seanmcdirmid]

It remains to be seen: Musk is making a bet that Tesla could win big or lose here. It is an interesting bet to be sure, but Waymo's bet is as well (sensor fusion, and LIDAR will become affordable over time). I like that we have some diversity in the bets being made at least.