[valine]

That’s a lot of words, but at the end of the day the NHTSA allows FSD beta on the roads. Someday in the distant future Tesla will likely use the data they’ve collected to make statistical inferences to regulators about the safety of the system as a whole. Design intent doesn’t matter now, and won’t matter in the future when the system is retroactively validated for level 5.

[froh]

yah, I'm amazed how humongous piles of paper analyses are considered more safe than evidence that stuff works in the real world. I get statistics are hard. It took 30 years to bust p-value hacking and much longer to get Bayes inference widely accepted. some of us would.love to _understand_ how neural net based automation makes it's decisions. how do you deal with the observable fact that these robots indeed in the real world make the right decisions more often than humans? but we can't explain why, because we didn't construct the robots controls, at least not in the traditional way?

[ClumsyPilot]

Speculation. Lynching was also allowed at one point, and then it wasn't

[valine]

Did you really just compare Tesla’s driver assist to lynching?

[ClumsyPilot]

Doesn't matter - something that used to be common, used to kill people, and eventually society decided it shouldn't be allowed. Asbestos might be better comparison.

Point is, you are assuming a certain legal outcome, and there is no reason to believe it won't go the opposite way