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by rank0 1113 days ago
Why isn’t moving out of the most expensive city in the world an option?

I believe the biggest factor is mental illness. The addiction and homelessness are the symptoms/results. (Obviously not in every case)

We’re at record low unemployment. If you’re able and willing to work you can 100% make enough money to pay rent somewhere…it just might not be in SF.

Idk why people feel that everyone should be entitled to live in any specific location.

Also, FWIW the US homelessness rate is below 0.2% among the lowest in the world.

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0.2% is not "among the lowest in the world", or at least among OECD countries. Many countries have the rates way below 0.1% And not just rich countries, Brazil for example has 0.05%

https://www.oecd.org/els/family/HC3-1-Homeless-population.pd...

That table you linked only measures rates of 34 countries. You realize there are ~200 countries on the planet right?

It’s just objectively true that the US enjoys much higher living standards than the rest of the world…even if Brazil’s homelessness rate in 2015 is 0.1% smaller than the US 2020 figure…

Well, if you want to compare US to countries like Ethiopia or Sudan then you are lowering the bar significantly. OECD is an organization of relatively rich, developed countries, which seems like a proper crowd the US should compare itself to :)

My point was that the US really shouldn't be bragging about their homelessness rate.

> US enjoys much higher living standards than the rest of the world

Tell that to 20 millions Americans living in trailer parks.

> Brazil’s homelessness rate in 2015 is 0.1% smaller than the US 2020 figure

Not sure how you count that. For me it's 0.18% vs 0.05%, so US rate is over three times or 260% higher (or conversly Brazil's homelessness rate is 73% lower). I can't do anything about 2015 vs 2020, that's the latest data available for this report, I guess.

I'm not sure if you're American or not, but in my country we're being torn apart by a mob of people who feast on outrage. I come from a family of Vietnamese immigrants, who's lives were ravaged by war and political persecution. I know what the world is like and it's fucking terrible.

I'm not trying to "brag" about the US homelessness rate. I'm trying to point out that things are honestly pretty good here. You can get educated, find work, and build a beautiful life for your family. The median household income here is like 6-7x the global median. Despite the recent political polarization, our government is the oldest and most stable in the world.

To me, 0.18% is a reasonable rate and the long term trend is undeniably downwards. I hope you levy these same criticisms against the likes of Germany, France, Sweden, etc... because they all have higher rates according to your chart.

If we don't stop this silly conflict fueled by internal anti-American sentiment, our country may implode.

Eugene, Oregon is worse. It's not San Francisco.

It's a United States problem.

See my response to this upthread[0]. Moving requires time and money, which many people in this situation don't have to spare. In a way they are locked into their current location, because even though it's already financially precarious, the simple act of trying to find a new location and a new job could easily tip them into deep financial trouble.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36171583