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by dangwhy 1114 days ago
Why are all the lofty examples from countries that are hostile to refugees/immigrants like Scandinavian countries.

Would love to hear examples of great public welfare/healthcare programs from countries that accepts 6 million refugees / year like USA. In my head these are two opposing goals but curious to know if there are counterexamples.
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OpieCunningham 1114 days ago
The US accepted 22,645 refugees in 2022. Since 1990 the U.S. has accepted, on average, roughly 75,000 per year.

In 2021, the US accepted 11,411 refugees (approx. 1 refugee per 28,900 citizens), and Finland accepted 1,282 refugees (approx. 1 refugee per 4,300 citizens).

* https://www.statista.com/statistics/200061/number-of-refugee...

* https://www.worlddata.info/europe/finland/asylum.php

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dangwhy 1114 days ago
Sorry my original number was slightly off.

2.76 border crossings in 2022 . I know there might be dups in this number but there are also crossings that are unaccounted for. There are also 1 million visa overstays/yr. This is on top of 1 million legal immigrants.

Rough math is 3 million just for refugees ( ppl who cross the border apply for refugee status). All this not event accounting for hundreds thousands of work visas, millions of ppl living in usa in legal immigration queues, birthright tourism ect ect.

But I think no one really has any idea what the actual number is.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/migrant-border-...

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/04/re...

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/chinese-national-pleads...

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patall 1114 days ago
I think you are mistaken, though I do not know how. Scandinavian countries accept quite many immigrants. I.e Sweden in 2022: 3.6/1000, compared to US (2020!): 3/1000. Both sources from wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Sweden and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_S...
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dangwhy 1114 days ago
> I think you are mistaken, though I do not know how.

see my comment here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36172283

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ransom1538 1114 days ago
Well, also sprinkle in thousands of pounds of cheap fentanyl and dealer networks.
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