[vivegi]

So, they discover a vulnerability in ios and publish the details of the symptoms of the exploit -- something that Apple themselves were unaware --, release a tool to detect indicators of compromise in iphone backups and yet, somehow they have poor judgment?

What should they be doing? Keep the discovery to themselves so those who claim iPhone is secure can continue living obliviously with their worldview unchanged? Wouldn't we accuse them of poor judgment if they did that?

It is quite reasonable for them to say the ecosystem being closed is making analysis and detection difficult. It is up to Apple to do what they want with that information.

[KMag]

If I'm understanding the GP correctly, they're asserting that any "real expert" would have anticipated being exploited on iPhone and would never have used iPhone.

I can see this point of view, but I feel expertise is more about skill in acquiring information and updating beliefs. In my view, real experts can be blatantly wrong, even about foundational facts, if they have an exceptional ability to update those beliefs.

[vivegi]

No expertise is needed to say any os/device is likely to suffer an attack/exploit. Anyone who says that for any platformwill be right with a probability of 1.0

[throw74775]

It issue is that their claim that the cause of the exploit is the propriety OS, is both not plausible (because otherwise Android would be far more secure than iOS), and is inconsistent with their alleged expertise.

It’s entirely possible that they are experts, but are making making a claim that is not based on their expertise, for reasons of political and marketing expediency.