[BobbyJo]

> If your phone and the phone of the other party are not compromised, it is indeed possible to conduct end-to-end encrypted calls with perfect forward secrecy.

That's something you can never rely on though.

[SV_BubbleTime]

And let’s be honest, you would be foolish to think WhatsApp isn’t compromised by intelligence agencies.

[predictabl3]

I uh, y'all do know there are open source voip apps, right? You can fire up most any popular Matrix client and call me E2EE right now.

[Scoundreller]

And has been used as a vector of device compromise itself.