[coldtea]

Reddit is for old geezers, so I doubt any of the above answers is in any way in touch with 2023.

And I'm not sure who calls Macbooks "$2000 Facebook machines". That sounds like the ancient DOS era bs that "Macs are toys" (funny, the PC ended getting all the gamers and meat-and-potatoes OS needs, i.e. email+web, older people).

In the west, where they can afford it, a huge chunk of programmers, graphic designers, data analysts, video editors, musicians, writers, etc use Macbooks, disproportionally more so than the general public's share of macOS, or the share of those professions on Linux).

[bayindirh]

Actually, I'm not a youngfolk, and I'm not bothered by it. It was just a joke.

Well, as a macOS + Linux user (for almost 2 decades), there were tons of "$2000 Facebook Machine" memes around. I remember rich kids getting them alongside shiny iPhones to put them on their tables at Starbucks to "show" them.

I, for one, code and post-process photos on both macOS and Linux, and generally happy about how they interoperate.

Also, I aim to continue to keep this Linux desktop + macOS notebook arrangement indefinitely, because it makes my life much easier and enjoyable.

[ChuckNorris89]

>Reddit is for old geezers

Please let all the Gen-Z-ers know they should vacate Reddit.

[jorvi]

Change “the West” into “mostly America”.

There is still a decent chunk of Apple users in Europe, but it is a far cry from the extreme obsession America seems to have with Apple devices.

[coldtea]

Well, US has a market share for macOS of around 20% and Europe of around 7-8% from what I can find.

I'd also wager the main culprit is the 20-30% price hike of Macs in Europe (in absolute numbers - it's even worse considering the lower wages in most of European countries compared to the US), rather than any particular dislike.

[xp84]

This just gave me a thought.

Perhaps if the EU eventually does something to sufficiently cripple Apple there, maybe Europe can be a hospitable location for a competitor besides Google to get a toehold someday either in smartphones or whatever the successor is. The duopoly sucks.

[ztrww]

macOS is not particularly closed in comparison to Windows, though. The opposite in fact in some ways..

[dgan]

> or the share of those professions on Linux

Lol This argument keeps getting reused over and over. The main reason Linux is not used is lazy sysadmins who only care to support Windows and MacOS for other employees. This argument has as much convincing power as "elections" held in separatists regions of Ukraine.

I do have macbook offered by my job, yes it's definitely better than windows, and yes i would take a linux laptop any day

[coldtea]

Not really. MacOS is also heavily used in companies where you can have your pick of OS.

>This argument has as much convincing power as "elections" held in separatists regions of Ukraine.

So, a lot, given the demographics.

[dgan]

> So, a lot, given the demographics

This is so dumb I am not even going to explain why, enjoy swimming в море говна, и подлечись от идиотизма когда будет возможность

[ztrww]

> This is so dumb

To be fair you used are the one who used this absolutely brilliant argument:

> The main reason Linux is not used is lazy sysadmins who only care to support Windows and MacOS for other employees.