[perfmode]

have you ever experienced anything outside of your conscious experience?

how do you know there is a world outside?

and not phenomena arising within your conscious experience?

if you close your eyes, you will find a consciousness without end

open your eyes

& these very words arise within your conscious experience

and when you close your eyes, only consciousness remains

[tsimionescu]

Yes, of course. I discover things changing in my body every time I look again. And whenever I interact with the world, I discover it has changed significantly since I last interacted.

Of course, since I can't observe anything except what I'm observing right now, I could conclude that I'm creating those observations. But I have noticed time and time again that the world largely looks like the same whether I observe it or not. Also, occasionally things that I didn't observe suddenly happen to me, in a way which is consistent only with them having originated outside myself (for example, a ball hits me in the back of the head).

[perfmode]

Do you perceive the ball hit your head through direct experience? Or is it mediated through the interpretation of the mind?

[tsimionescu]

This question makes no sense. There is no distinction between and my mind, so experiences of the mind are by definition direct experiences.

Either way, if you're claiming I'm just a figment of your imagination, this conversation really makes very little sense, and of course there is no proof I can bring that would convince you. The existence of a world independent of our own minds is a pre-requisite for any meaningful conversation.

[perfmode]

how did you come to this conclusion that there is no difference between you and your mind?

would you classify this as a belief? or as an assumption? or as a fact?

could you somehow test this?