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by diablerouge 1121 days ago
Tool lending libraries exist and function perfectly well - there are 3 or 4 in my city (the nearest is a... oh wait, 15 minute walk from my house.) They have tool maintenance and repair nights every month - I've attended and it's a great group of volunteers who donate time and work to build a community of people dedicated to helping others.

I also live in a city with one of the highest-rated public transit systems in the US. The buses don't smell and they're affordable and provide great jobs to thousands of city residents while making it possible to cross the city for $2.50 (or $5 for the entire day.)

And lastly, no one is talking about "forcing" you to do anything. You're welcome to own your own set of tools if you don't want to use the libraries (I own a set of my own, but it can be much smaller because I can always pop by the library for something I don't own.) The commons are opt-in, aside from the rare cases where they need to be protected from people who refuse to be a part of the community that cares for the commons.

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Even if I were to take your anecdotes at face value... what makes you believe that scales?

We're not talking about a tool club with limited membership and everyone that wants to be part of it (and therefor quite likely behaves themselves). We're talking about doing that to an entire country, and dismantling some or all of the infrastructure that would allow others to "opt out" of such nonsense.

It's great that your public transit system is awesome and as clean as a hospital operating room with butt-massaging warmed-seat seating. I don't give a shit about the best public transit system... I'm worried about the worst. Personal experience shows me that in such cases, I'm much more likely to have to deal with the worst of X, than I ever am to deal with the best of X.

> And lastly, no one is talking about "forcing" you to do anything. Y

Yeh, they are. No one who's not a gullible cretin believes otherwise. That's just your propaganda strategy early on. But if we get to a point a few years from now where one of the advocates is frustrated in public and loses his cool, or where you've managed to neutralize some of the opposition, then the truth will come out. You just can't afford to be honest right now.

I even allow that you personally know nothing of the agenda, but that you're just parroting the party line, as a loyalist would. True believer, you can't even imagine that it would be anything other than the truth. That's even more pathetic.

> The commons are opt-in, aside from the rare cases where they need to be protected from people who refuse to be a part of the community that cares for the commons.

These commons are meant to crowd out the non-commons until nothing else exists. And no one with any sense believes otherwise.