[julian_sark]

Just sign up at my company. Job done!

My company used to title me: "System Architect". Yes, always singular, they're Germans and have no feel at all for English language.

Then HR bought a pricy scheme from some consultant, and now I'm suddenly an "Advanced System Engineer". And also mightily pissed off for not being a senior title.

It's like they roll dice around here. People went from being Data Analysts to being developers and vice versa. People were assigned titles that don't fit, purely so they could be outfited with certain benefits exclusively tied to those titles in a rigid scheme.

Leave it to HR to screw over any industry naming conventions and to make my future job applications great fun, when I will explain why I'm not really that thing that's actually on my CV.

[mekoka]

> And also mightily pissed off for not being a senior title.

Not as pissed off as when you'll find out during salary negotiation that you're not an Advanced System Engineer after all, but an Advanced System Engineer.

[bombolo]

Surely you're aware that you can write whatever you want on your CV?

[mejutoco]

Not OP, but in Germany it is quite typical to receive a letter that officially states what were your duties and titles. Some employers expect you send them the previous job letters as a sort of background check.

It is also easy to read between the lines in the letter to see if you did just the minimum or they were really happy with you. The fear of a bad letter can keep people accountable until they leave (best case) or be used as a threat by an unscrupulous employer (worst case).

This affects international jobs a bit less, in my experience.

[hef19898]

That is slowly changing so. First because most employers are afraid of legal disputes and give roughly a 2 (based on the German grading system with 1 being the best 6 being the worst). The de-facto legal minimum, without hard reasons to deviate, is a 3.

The second reason, nobody is asking for those anymore it seems. The last couple of jobs I took, nobody asked for any of my letters.

Otherwise I agree, it takes some internal convincing to not care about them if your are used to them your whole life.

Im short, those letters suck. And almost everybody knows it.

[latency-guy2]

Of course you can, until you meet someone like me who dislikes that very much. I think of my self as incredibly vindictive, and I act accordingly. So, think along the lines of - if you apply to a job that I am hiring for, and you try that nonsense with me, I will make sure you never get work anywhere near me. I will remember your name.

I also would not bet on me forgetting you, I do interview quite a few people, but negative experiences stick in my head like a sore thumb. So, I think your only options are pray that you don't meet me along the way, or someone like me. It'll be for the best for both of us, honestly.

[bombolo]

Well I would never apply to work for the mafia, so it seems that the risks of me applying to work for you are very low…

[latency-guy2]

Hey, the only thing you don't have to do is lie. If that's so hard, best of luck your in life, you'll need it.