[_8j50]

Alright, then let me rephrase it simply: SWE should be getting paid as much as they can collectively negotiate and companies who already get the best tax deals should tuck their tails between their legs and be happy about it. I don't care what people get paid in random places, it has absolutley no relevance other than govs should not allow a company to profit in their country if it is not offering competitive salaries and instead outsources. The only beneficiaries can't be the super rich company owners and shareholders.

Pay tax or pay really good wages.

To @pokepim whom I can't reply to because the comment is dead: nah, I am not even a developer and your skills are irrelevant, your replacabilith in the market is all that matters. These companies raise insane capital, get insane tax benefits and cuts and the lowest taxes and most lax employment laws in the developed world and also want to bitch about 200k salaries in places where median house costs are in the millions. If vietnam devs are so good, I am sure vietnam (or any country) will have amazing companies that raise crazy valuations and pay them good enough to afford a house to live in?! Right? Tell mee when I can save 50% of 20k/yr in the US and buy a house in the US? In cali I would have to save for like 100 years lol. I am all for outsourcing if it means houses and other CoL in the US will have the same prices as the places outsourcers live at.

[bruce511]

As someone who lives in a low-cost-of-living place, and who occasionally contracts to US companies, let me phrase it this way.

I'm very happy with $x. I don't really care what a SV person gets. Thats irrelevant to me and makes zero impact on my standard if living. If $x is smaller than a US salary then the employer is happy too.

Once employers figure out your job can be done remotely (something the WFH cohort are bending over backwards to do) they'll discover the global labour pool is huge. And astonishingly smart. And speak good English. And are prepared to work US time zones.

Salaries are willing buyer, willing seller. If your salary offer of $60k puts me easily in the top 1% of salaries in my country, then I'll take it, and be happy.

[_8j50]

I completley understand and support your position. That's why companies can't easily do global remote, outsourcing is not exactly a new concept in tech. These companies are playing capitalism but the people buying their shit aren't. Companies exist to benefit people, people don't exist to benefit companies, that's why every country has labor laws to protect its people from greedy companies, but if a greedy company benefits you for the time being, enjoy! But keep in mind, the salary they pay offshore is funded by taxes and income onshore. The problem really is US empoloyment law here.