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by hitpointdrew
1120 days ago
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> If someone told you that "50 years from now, there's going to be an earthquake in this exact spot; here's the data to back me up," it'd be kind of silly to say 25 years later "there's no earthquake. I don't see what all the fuss was about No, it would be like someone saying they had scientific proof that an earthquake would happen in 25 years and 50 years later not so much as the tiniest tremor ever occurring. There is no scientific “consensus” that there is a climate “crisis”. Just a small minority of loud fear mongers with political motivation. There are literally hundreds of other pressing issues that are real crises that deserve attention way before climate. |
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First, we are already seeing early effects of climate change https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/04/1135852
Second, is your argument that "if climate change was going to be very bad, it would've happened by now?" I'm not aware (tho please correct me if I'm wrong!) of analyses saying that sea levels should have significantly risen by 2023, or the more catastrophic effects that models are currently showing.
> There is no scientific “consensus” that there is a climate “crisis”. Just a small minority of loud fear mongers with political motivation.
The data doesn't support that it's a minority of scientists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climat... dives into the data, but surveys of scientists (who have published in peer-reviewed journals) consistently show that over 97% of scientists believe in human-caused global warming (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveys_of_scientists%27_views...).
I also want to push back on the "political motivation" portion. As the OP notes, scientists have been warning about climate change for decades. Carl Sagan testified before congress about it in 1985. This is older than the current left-right political divide in America. George Bush gave a speech in 2001 in which he says that we need to stop emitting greenhouse gases to stop climate change https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/20...
> There are literally hundreds of other pressing issues that are real crises that deserve attention way before climate.
I agree that we should be combating other issues, too!