[beerpls]

Just look at most of the comments in any climate thread. They are mostly people dooming “it’s too late” or similar (nothing has been done!)

Ignoring the scientific realities, the public is hopelessly lost and emotional on the subject.

It’s frustrating to say the least but this is the effect of mass programming. The question to me is why are these people being programmed to think that everything is hopeless?

It’s not a helpful strategy for actually making changes that can help the climate

[secretsatan]

I don’t see that, but in many ways, it is actually too late, maybe not catastrophically, but in ways where most people will pay a cost higher than the manufactured fear around the potential costs of doing anything about it, the profits around it have been privatised, the costs socialised

[beerpls]

What specific costs are you talking about?

[sledgehammers]

"Too late" is the only logical conclusion I've been able to make. And just to be clear, "too late" is entirely subjective. The universe will be fine with or without the human ape.

But I recognize living in an information bubble, and I've been educated as a truth seeking scientist.

Can you point me to resources that talk about this entirely opposite conclusion?

[beerpls]

Are you implying humans will go extinct because of climate change?

What’s too late? Why are the doomers wholly unable to provide a solid claim or example of a prior claim of catastrophe that has come to pass?

Stop saying it’s too late, and use words to explain exactly what you’re saying. Otherwise it’s fear mongering and that’s all this conversation ever is

[sledgehammers]

Look, I'm as anxious about the whole thing as you. We need to start changing our societies in a fundamental level. Like yesterday..