[ceejayoz]

> it's good time to lowball

There's lowballing, and then there's insulting.

[CoastalCoder]

Why would that be an insult?

If they can find someone good enough at that rate, then why would they pay more?

And if they can't, then they'll just need to discover the market floor by experience.

[antisthenes]

When you're scraping the market floor, there are much higher chances of hiring someone who will bring negative value.

[CoastalCoder]

I agree, but it seems to me that it's still the employers choice whether or not to take that gamble.

So I'm still not understand the basis for feeling insulted my an employer testing the market in this manner.

[kjghkjghkjgh]

99% of programming jobs outside of America must be insulting to you.

[michh]

If you’ve just been laid off from big tech and have been applying for three months in the current climate you might want to take the insult and hope the startup succeeds in a way that brings you the rewards later. I don’t like it either but that’s where some of my friends are at right now.

[jollofricepeas]

Insulting is relative and depends on where you live.

There’s senior engineers all over the world willing to work for a stable wage of $50k USD.

- Brazil

- Ukraine

- Pakistan

- India

- Mexico

[hotpotamus]

Is the dignity of work worth nothing to you? Think of the poor job creators.