[systemvoltage]

I agree, good things still exist when it is B2B or only designed for a highly trained or professional users. But, when we need to design things for 80 IQ crowd, everything suffers. RGB lighting and diamond studded so to speak in UI/UX field.

[simulo]

My point was that "good" is good only in connection to an ecosystem of tech, values, practices and the people judging what is "good". I personally do not think any group of users "drags the field down".

[systemvoltage]

Yes it does. A certain group of people definitely drags the entire field down. It’s not a nice thing to think about but it’s a fact and the reality IMO. You can continue to lie to yourself but eventually you realize that you need to dumb things down for the below 2 std deviation folks or you won’t get them as users.

[JohnFen]

> But, when we need to design things for 80 IQ crowd, everything suffers.

I really think that the only way to adequately serve both demographics is to have two different UIs.