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by throwaway384629 1112 days ago
Wow! Most of what you mentioned is plain wrong. Not sure if you are mistaken or lying knowingly.

>> The ban on crop burning (main cause of Delhi's pollution) was central to the farm bill.

Crop burning is already outlawed in India and enforced with fines. Why you need to make a new law for something which is already illegal? Below was the actual central idea of the farm bill:

"The laws would have deregulated a system of government-run wholesale markets, allowing farmers to sell directly to food processors, but farmers feared that this would result in the end of government-guaranteed price floors, thereby reducing the prices they would receive for their crops."[1]

>> We do not vote for Presidents in India.

Again, wrong. The 2022 Indian presidential election was held on 18 July 2022 to elect the president of India. The election was the 16th presidential election in India since the Partition. [2]

>> incompetent ~6th generation heir of the Nehru/Gandhi family

Source please?

>> There is a ton of optimism around jobs, infrastructure growth and economic policies

Source please? You must be living in an alternate world.

>> Every single one of them only transitioned to a proper liberal democracy

So, China is a "proper liberal democracy" as per you? Also can you please share a source to support your claims?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Indian_agriculture_acts

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Indian_presidential_elect...

2 comments

Stubble burning was long banned but it's still being practiced and contributes to Delhi's pollution. In fact, one of the demands of the farm protests was to release those who were arrested for stubble burning[1].

> Again, wrong. The 2022 Indian presidential election was held on 18 July 2022 to elect the president of India.

It's not a general election. Only MPs and MLAs get to vote for the president.

> Source please? You must be living in an alternate world.

There are indeed concerns on job growth but infrastructure growth and economic policies have caught pace in the last decade. There's a reason why Meta, Google and Aramco want to pour money into the country.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_Indian_farme...

Looks like you are trying to respond to be without understanding the topic first and your above comment does not relate.

My reply was to this comment which said:

1. "The ban on crop burning (main cause of Delhi's pollution) was central to the farm bill"

2. "We do not vote for Presidents in India. The president was selected by the ruling party"

Can you please let me know how any of above 2 statements are correct?

Also, to your other comment: >> There's a reason why Meta, Google and Aramco want to pour money into the country.

Companies like Meta, Google and Aramco invest and try to invest in all the counties for their own growth. This is also to target the huge population of India. These companies also invested in China, that does not make China any better. Can you please share a source for "infrastructure growth and economic policies have caught pace"?

> "We do not vote for Presidents in India. The president was selected by the ruling party"

The President of India is voted by electoral college. We live in a representative democracy. Just because the President is voted by electoral college doesn't mean they are not elected. Keep in mind that the Prime Minister of India is also not directly elected, they are chosen by the Lok Sabha.

Exactly my point!
Banning doesn't take care of the problem completely unless there is a mechanism to take stubble away from the farmers. If there is no mechanism, people will burn it to get rid.
Did you even read my post ?

> China is a "proper liberal democracy" as per you?

The exact line you quoted, literally ends with an "if at all" in brackets right after.

> Source please?

That Rahul Gandhi is the 6th generation heir ?

Motilal -> Jawaharlal -> Indira -> Rajiv -> Sonia -> Rahul. What's disputable here ?

That he is incompetent ? I mean, even the most ardent congress fan won't deny that Rahul Gandhi is incompetent at best and a BJP plant at worst. He oversaw the downfall of the freest of wins in world politics anywhere.

Motilal -> Jawaharlal -> Indira -> Rajiv -> Rahul

Sonia is not the child of Rajiv, it's his spouse.

You added a generation there. Sonia was Rajiv's wife - not his daughter.
>> He oversaw the downfall of the freest of wins in world politics anywhere.

BJP under Modi-Shah lost 8 states, 218 by-elections in last two years [1]

Karnataka and Himachal Pradesh are the two states where the BJP has lost to Congress in the last six months. The BJP lost deposits in 38.4% of the seats it contested in Southern Karnataka. [2] [3]

Modi was the face of election campaign and spent whole centre government money and machinery to campaign. Modi speaks a script written by someone else by using a teleprompter and has never given an open & live unscripted press conference in last 8 years ([4] [5] [6]). By your logic, are you trying to say Modi is also incompetent?

>> The exact line you quoted, literally ends with an "if at all" in brackets right after.

Got it. So you are hoping some day China will transition to democracy AFTER industrialization had been achieved, and you think India might need to convert to an authoritarian state in order to successfully escaped poverty? Is my understanding correct?

Also, you haven's still answered my 2 questions:

1. How is "The ban on crop burning (main cause of Delhi's pollution) was central to the farm bill."?

2. What do you mean about this: "We do not vote for Presidents in India. The president was selected by the ruling party"?

[1] https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/india/bjp-under-modi-sha...

[2] https://time.com/6280139/india-modi-bjp-congress-karnataka-e...

[3] https://www.thehindu.com/data/data-how-significant-is-bjps-d...

[4] https://www.reuters.com/article/india-election-modi/at-his-f...

[5] https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/rti-pmo-pm-narendra-mo...

[6] https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/opinion/why-hasnt-pm-mod...