[onethought]

It’s not clear where in the hierarchy any of those animals fit, because we can’t ask them how much they are suffering, and they can’t conceptualise their experience as Suffering, because we invented that concept to describe a certain state we experience.

No, intuitively, most people do not agree there is a line… people just buy meat and eat it, and the main consideration is taste. Can you provide any evidence suffering factors into the majority of peoples food decisions?

[nefitty]

There’s research to try to get closer to an objective demarcation of suffering. The latest measures place even shrimp at some level of intolerable suffering, due to some of the farming techniques, eg removing they eyeballs of females to make them more fertile.