[monissiddiqui]

It's surprising how individualistic people are in developed countries. They are literally self-selecting themselves out of the gene pool! Just goes to show "smart" does not mean wise. Apparently making sure humanity doesn't continue on to the next generation isn't considered a moral responsibility. And they get salty wondering why religious communities will be the majority throughout time.

I guess these governments will just keep rolling the dice on immigration and hope that one day sustainable birth rate patterns will just follow suit. Great strategy /s

[fineIllregister]

> They are literally self-selecting themselves out of the gene pool!

One person's genes are not that important to continuing humanity.

> Apparently making sure humanity doesn't continue on to the next generation isn't considered a moral responsibility.

Plenty of people are having children. World population is still growing.

> And they get salty wondering why religious communities will be the majority throughout time.

Religiosity has been declining and is expected to continue to decline.

> I guess these governments will just keep rolling the dice on immigration...

You say you are concerned with continuing "humanity", but "immigrants" don't count. People born outside developed nations aren't human to you?

[kitsunesoba]

I don’t mind doing my “part” for perpetuating humanity or what have you (though as the sibling comment points out, there are plenty of kids being born without my help), but what I was getting at in my comment is that it seems unwise to jump into that without first learning how to be a fully functional member of society and coming to know oneself, neither of which most people have managed to accomplish until they’re at least in their mid-20s.

If I’d buckled to societal pressure and gotten married as an overgrown kid, the chances that the marriage would ultimately succeed would’ve been a lot lower which means a lot of unnecessary emotional turmoil for everybody involved, including any kids.

I don’t think it’s particularly selfish or unwise to aim for a successful marriage over getting married ASAP. If anything I find it thoughtless and selfish to rope somebody into a relationship you don’t even have the life experience to know if you’re ready for yet.

[hotpotamus]

I didn't really put much of a value judgement on it. Mostly I was thinking about my beehives and how you have to make sure the queen is reproducing or the hive will collapse from attrition within a month or so. I rather like the bees in that they don't seem to think much about meaning or morals; they just go on about their business of existence.

[elzbardico]

People in the West have an inflated sense of self-importance.

People with absolutely boring stupid bullshit jobs talk about their "careers" in a way you'd think they are Marie Curie or Enrico Fermi when what they do is basically sell some useless stuff and spend their days in meetings with other self-important corporate drones.