[PrimeMcFly]

Humane treatment is not an oxymoron at all.

There are farms like this [0] which are certainly humane. And the farms suggested by Dr Temple Grandin also qualify as such, although I'm not aware of any farm actually implementing her methods.

[0] https://gnecofarm.org/

[myshpa]

90+% (IIRC) of slaughtered animals in US are from CAFOs.

Any kind of slaughter is inhumane when there's no NEED to eat meat. The clean process you may have seen in TV is different from reality (see recent CO2 chambers relevations [0]).

Taking away mother's young and taking milk mother produces for her (him is killed usually immediatelly) is inhumane. [1]

Etc.

I've seen Dr Temple Grandin's "Glass Walls" ... she is not the right person for the job of representing "humane animal treatment." Yes, she says what you want to hear. But not the right person for the animals.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVebmHMZ4bQ

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI

[PrimeMcFly]

> 90+% (IIRC) of slaughtered animals in US are from CAFOs.

Sure. That's an argument for reformation though.

> Any kind of slaughter is inhumane when there's no NEED to eat meat.

That simply isn't true. Humane simply means inflicting as little suffering as possible. That's it.

> The clean process you may have seen in TV is different from reality

I'm well versed. I've been arguing against veganism for the last few years.

> I've seen Dr Temple Grandin's "Glass Walls" ... she is not the right person for the job of representing "humane animal treatment." Yes, she says what you want to hear. But not the right person for the animals.

She is very well respected in her field and her work is solid. If it makes things better for animals, why resist it?