[shjake]

> Couldn't be the voters in the south, must be The Media.

You do realize that in even even in the reddest southern state (Alabama) 35% of people did not vote for Trump?

Also that if your diatribe was targeted at any other ethnic group or nationality it would almost invariably be perceived as racist by most?

[stonogo]

"My" diatribe was a point for point repetition of the grandparent post with examples. And yes, I do realize that -- hence the bit about how people should not be judged by an accent? Did you read the whole post or just the bits you wanted to get mad at?

Any diatribe targeted at any ethnic group is racist?. Are you under the impression "Southerner" is an ethnic group? I am talking about a group of people who share vile political goals and have a voting majority in specific US states. I didn't say one word about ethnicity, so you might try to peddle your rage bait elsewhere.

This is a stupid rhetorical device. "If you said bad things about minorities you'd be racist!". No shit. Guess it's a good thing I'm saying bad things about people with shitty ideologies.

[shjake]

So every person who has a southern accent is part of:

> I am talking about a group of people who share vile political goals

right?

So are you implying that they only gain the accent when they join this group or that having the accent makes them predisposed somehow to join it, or what?

What makes your diatribe (part II) even more mind-boggling is that this whole discussion is about people who chose to move to some other states. Which probably would make them less likely to support these “shitty ideologies”? That is unless you believe they are somehow predisposed to hold ’vile’ views because of where they were born?

> Guess it's a good thing I'm saying bad things about people with shitty ideologies.

Well you’re implying that any person who speaks with a southern accent is incapable of holding liberal/progressive(?) beliefs? Or that anybody born in “the south” is regardless pf the accent? That everyone who doesn’t/isn’t is a somehow inherently superior human being? It’s hard to say.. either idea is pretty disturbing.

> you wanted to get mad at?

I’m not mad.. just a bit puzzled and surprised that you’re not sharing your thoughts on Reddit instead.

[stonogo]

You're conflating two different topics. One is the overall thread topic, the study where people with strong accents -- NOT just southern ones -- receive lower wage offers. The other is media portrayal of the south in general, which is what I was responding to. I explicitly said it was bad that people associate possession of a Southern accent with subscription to the despicable politics that are at play in the South. I also said that the media portrayal of the South as full of extreme right-wing politics, racism, and xenophobia was largely accurate, because the powers that be in the south subscribe to them, and they're voted in by the populace. Does that mean they are unanimously supported? No, but that didn't stop you from making bad assumptions about my intent. The fact is that the parts of the country where these things prevail in politics is also the part of the country where Southern accents are common. There is no causative relationship between these two facts. I'm not "implying" anything; I'm saying that people should not be judged by their accents AND media portrayal of the south as politically backwards is accurate ... and these two things can both be true. It's part of the guidelines of this site to avoid going out of your way to make bad-faith interpretations of posts here, and this pointless exchange is why.

I assume the Reddit reference is some kind of an attempt at a burn that would make sense to extremely online people, but since I don't really read Reddit I'm not going to bother to figure out what the hell you're talking about there.

[rightbyte]

Moral standards does not apply to self righteous people. Since they are good people and only bad people do bad stuff.