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Cats pretty much domesticated themselves for the mutual benefit of both species.

There are "captive" pets living in cages or other enclosures that might be a bit more dicey, but cats and dogs are probably a pretty poor example to get upset about.

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an apartment or small garden for dogs or cats who usually cover at least 10km daily is captivity

another point is also their environmental footprint (20% of meat and fish production, many services and indirect pollution, impact on birds, lezards, etc..)

[sgu999]

20% seems very high. I also thought their food was a byproduct of the meat industry, maybe that's the reason? It's 20% that no one else would eat anyway?

(I'm being pedantic but that'd suit my narrative, I'm mostly vegan and I'm easily annoyed by people with pets)

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sure but it's still driving the production and pollution up (processing, packaging, transport) and many pet owners also give them their own food