[RedCondor]

Socialists will once again get to explain how the capitalist welfare state was an unsustainable scam paid for by neocolonialism. Demonized socialist projects will come to be seen in a more authentic, positive light, and the fight for worker and human emancipation from capitalism will resume.

[wahnfrieden]

Both socialist and capitalist liberal states are bad, liberation requires overcoming the power structures of both state and capital. We all stand to gain from it, it's not like a new tax system.

Socialist states are just elitist authoritarian capitalism. Both kinds of states trap their populaces in endless all consuming work. Please, let's move on, we have automation and industrialized processes now to not need constant work at the behest of rulers commanding us or gatekeeping and bean countnig access to reproducible technology and information

(It's incidentally also the same fight as the ecological problem.)

[RedCondor]

>Only if they lack political education.