[tpetry]

The cloud has the same problem but in a different color. One employee created and managed everything in AWS and then quits. You have the same problem that nobody really knows how to continue from that point. Why was it built that way? Why are the IAM rules like that? etc.

[namaria]

Yeah complexity doesn't go away, you just move it around. The trick is not standing up stuff, that's pretty straight forward with cloud or metal. The real talent lies in understanding that you need to pump the entropy somewhere so you should be aware of the trade-offs and make things that are well organized, explicit and have contingency plans for the future.

[dilyevsky]

Exactly. It actually makes this problem worse bc cloud apis lower the skill level requirement to the point that people who don’t know what they’re doing can create a lot of unmanageable headache in very short time span