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by voidnap 1125 days ago
> Yes it’s possible to buy your own building, and your own DS3/OC3. And HVAC. And electrical.

> And do it again in a different place for geographic redundancy.

With all due respect this is a trivial and misleading point of view.

Most people who do cloud don't need or employ redundancy across machines; much less so in different regions. But they do have devops teams or programmers who are required to learn bespoke cloud dashboards and AWS products. Even though most of the time they could just ssh into a box and run nodejs in screen and be 99% of the way there. Cloud providers convinced everyone that it's really hard to run a computer program. And companies set money on fire because spending signals growth, especially to investors.

Literally everything you said is the opposite of how I've seen people use "cloud" in the real world. I don't know what universe you're living in where things are as wonderful as you proclaim but I wish I was in it because mine is a nightmare.

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> Literally everything you said is the opposite of how I've seen people use "cloud" in the real world.

I’ve been working in SaaS since 2008 and in cloud providers since 2012. And the use case I see over and over is people who don’t think they need or want geographical redundancy, until they do, and then they want it yesterday. Typically they are running fine for months or years and then there is an outage - maybe an AZ or a network partition - and then all of a sudden they’re scrambling for failover. Cloud often (usually?) has higher availability than the infra they migrated off of, and they grow addicted to it while not wanting to pay the dev cost for true high availability.

> Cloud often (usually?) has higher availability than the infra they migrated off of

I've seen more region wide outages than just an AZ e.g. where AWS us-west-2 goes out and so it doesn't make a difference.

> and then they want it yesterday

Some great SaaS you've experienced. I've been at 1s that say they want it yesterday but then realize it's too much work (already in the cloud) and just let it go until the next outage and complain again but yet again nothing gets done.