Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by feoren 1113 days ago
What if Greg is an online repository, crawling the web and storing and distributing copyrighted materials verbatim? Stripping out attribution? With ads and/or a paid subscription fee?

> Should you have to pay royalties to everyone whose content you ask Greg to look at?

If Greg talks so fast that he's distributing millions of these copies around the world, for money, then yes, of course he's infringing.

> What if Greg isn't an llm and he's your browser cache?

My browser cache is not a distribution mechanism. It's for my personal use. I'm not infringing on copyright if I keep books in my personal library. I am if I'm copying them millions of times and giving others access to that library for money. If I downloaded a bunch of paywalled content and then uploaded my browser cache to SomePirateSite.com, for money, then yes, I'm infringing.

Why do you think these are "gotcha" questions? This is pretty straightforward stuff, and nowhere does it prove that LLMs are not infringing.

2 comments

You are definitely infringing by making a copy of a book and keeping it in your personal library.
> What if Greg is an online repository, crawling the web and storing and distributing copyrighted materials verbatim? Stripping out attribution? With ads and/or a paid subscription fee?

So you mean Google, right?

Yes. Google preventing page-clicks by showing their half-assed, confidently wrong summaries that they scraped directly from the top results? Yes, that's copyright infringement. Simply linking to the site with a short preview is not.