[kj4ips]

It's still patent encumbered[1], NACS just gave the physical specification, and says "use CCS HLS". The Tesla-SC protocol is still a black box. I wonder if this is going to involve a rollout of logical CCS on existing SCs.

[1] Tesla's patent pledge is not even close to a grant and its "good faith" rules almost certainly exclude all current major automakers.

[93po]

> its "good faith" rules almost certainly exclude all current major automakers.

Why is that?

[kj4ips]

It defines good faith as never having done three things, or having an associated or related company do those things.

Those things are (roughly):

1. Having sued anyone over IP used in EVs, helped anyone due so, or had a financial stake in someone who does.

2. Challenged any patent held by Tesla, now or in the future; or had a stake in such a challenge.

3. Marketed or sold a "knock-off" of any tesla product, or providing material assistance to. Knock-off is defined a product that imitates or copies the design of a tesla product.

If I held stock in a big-three automaker when they sued a non-Tesla EV manufacturer over a patent, does that mean I am excluded? Sure looks like it.

Selling a J1772->Tesla-T adapter could also count, and because it's a "never has done" kind of thing, there is no concept of redemption.