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by SideburnsOfDoom 1114 days ago
> One of the small businesses in question wanted to use Shopify and got fined.

Citation needed. Who? This example seems very fictional, as shopify operates in the EU - there is no fine for simply "use shopify". "handle the sensitive financial data". is literally what such services do for their clients.
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scarface74 1113 days ago
https://lsww.de/shopify-illegal/

And the HN discussion

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33561222

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SideburnsOfDoom 1113 days ago
I see.

It hasn't been big news since then, so in the six months since then, did shopify manage to conduct their business legally, or did the business go to one of their several competitors who cares more about operating legally in the EU?

IDK, is this related? https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/eu-says-sho... https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_...

"Company complies with consumer safety law" is hard to spin as a bad thing, but go on, what have you got in that regard?

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scarface_74 1113 days ago
The Shopify announcement was regarding fake goods. It was not regarding the GDPR

> complaints mainly related to web stores hosted by the platform, found to have engaged in illegal practices, such as making fake offers and fake scarcity claims, supplying counterfeit goods or not providing their contact details.

The GDPR basically makes it illegal for an EU online business to use any SaaS service in the US or in this case Canada.

It was never meant to “protect” anyone. The entire purpose was to make it easier for EU companies to compete.

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SideburnsOfDoom 1113 days ago
> The GDPR basically makes it illegal for an EU online business to use any SaaS service in the US or in this case Canada.

No, only if they cannot comply with the law.

> It was never meant to “protect” anyone.

That is the opposite of true. I've seen it help internally at a data storage level, and seen people make use of it to protect themselves. You do not know what you are talking about.

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scarface74 1113 days ago
> No, only if they cannot comply with the law.

So exactly how is an EU citizen suppose to use a service like Shopify - that has to store PII - and that’s not based in the EU?

> That is the opposite of true. I've seen it help internally at a data storage level, and seen people make use of it to protect themselves. You do not know what you are talking about.

And it also killed a small business who wanted to use Shopify to sell completely legal things.

Not to mention that the same EU that is being applauded for “protecting your privacy” is trying to get a law passed so they can have a backdoor to any W2s encrypted methods.

It’s not that they want to protect your privacy. They just want to be the only ones who can surveil you.

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