[zamadatix]

For comparison ATT does it for $80/m (and they support IPv6). It's not really the price that's particularly special part of these services, it's getting the fiber made available in the area. 5 gbps symmetric is $185 which is quite competitive with those prices as well.

Though I'd pay an extra $20/month to just not have to deal with ATT anyways, all else being equal.

[hedora]

Do they let you plug your own router into their equipment though?

Their FTTN stuff definitely would only work with a router that somehow managed to break third party NAT, even in when running in its bypass mode.

(Out of 7 ISPs at over a dozen sites, this is the only time I have had this issue. Support couldn’t diagnose the issue.)

[zamadatix]

Plug your own router? Sure, put the BGW320 into passthrough mode and 3rd party NAT works fine. You get the public IP on your device and there is no double-NAT. The broken bit is, regardless where you NAT, you still run into the 8,192 session table limit of the device anyways. The only way around that is via unofficial means (which is part of the $20 to just not deal with ATT. The hardware could damn well do passthrough without that limitation). At least that's something you can workaround to a true fix though as opposed to no IPv6, where your best bet is tunnel somewhere.

[hedora]

In that case, they are significantly better than in the past.

That’s still so bad I think they should lose their right of way agreements for not providing service, but it is slightly better than before.

[csdvrx]

> The only way around that is via unofficial means

Can you explain what to do exactly if you have a Solarflare and a fiber module?

[zamadatix]

You grab your own 10G-PON ONT box like the Azores WAG-D20 which lets you set the MAC and ONT values to the same as the ATT one. Works pretty good, only complaint I have is there aren't any "ONT on a stick" (i.e. SFP+ module ONTs) that let you do that last part so it's still a box with a separate power supply adapter.