[foobarian]

I'm wondering the other side of it: given how fragile digital storage and peripherals are, are there efforts to transcribe books like this onto archival paper with archival inks? Seems it really would be kinda fun to have a modern day monastery copying books by hand like in the ancient times...

[giraffe_lady]

I'm not sure how common they are or precisely where it came from but I know someone with a hand-copied prayer book from the indian melankara church. I'm not sure when the original was made but this one was copied in the 1960s so is nearly a minor relic in its own right.

[WalterBright]

> given how fragile digital storage and peripherals are

Post it on the web. Lots of people will inevitably make copies, ensuring its survival.

[__d]

In my experience, even for things of some value, this isn't true. I'd perhaps go as far as saying this (understandably) point of view is dangerously misleading.

The two greatest losses I've observed have been the dismemberment of Usenet, and the deprecation of the FTP protocol.

Google's purchase of DejaNews was viewed at the time as a likely win: Google had the budget and the right ethos to preserve the history intact. And perhaps that discouraged others from doing their own preservation? As time has progressed, I've found that Google's archive is missing a lot, and there are precious few other sources. Lots of useful stuff is lost.

More recently, with the major browsers deprecating the FTP protocol, many of the large software archives have closed down due to reduced usage. Many, many things that used to be in the main archives are very difficult or impossible to find now, and lots are likely lost.

As examples, I was recently attempting to find the source code for various Mach (operating system) variants. It was quite difficult to find anything, and many things I know existed from personal experience seem impossible to locate now.

Similarly, some of the early releases of Unix appear to be lost. Various old tapes have been found, but despite being a high-profile item, we've yet to discover copies of key historical releases (see TUHS.org for what does exist).

We need to begin to actively curate and manage our history, or it will disappear.

[ethbr0]

The key element for both distributed storage and open source codebases appears to be refresh/review frequency.

Which is similar, but slightly different than popularity.

Essentially "With what frequency will someone put eyeballs on and attempt to use this thing"?

Below some critical threshold, integrity is compromised by freak events (hard drive crash, server goes down, host/maintainer decides to retire, etc.) and the material is corrupted/lost before it can be replicated.

E.g. re-hosting that thing that 10,000 people still have copies of, because they noticed it went down yesterday vs. that thing that disappeared a year ago and folks are just noticing

[WalterBright]

My old BBS system from the 80s still exists on a 200Mb hard drive, but I no longer have any way to read that drive. Who knows what's on my other ancient hard drives :-)

A friend of mine was able to rescue all my software for the PDP-11 from 8" floppies. I put what was mine on github.

A few years ago I tried to power up my old computers. None of them would power up. A couple made a popping sound and smoke came out. Probably all bad caps.

I did find a box of 20 or so zip drives circa 2000, and my old zip drive, which amazingly still worked. I copied everything off onto modern media.