[gopalv]

> he goes from 60 mph/96 kph to 0 in 13 seconds and the stop lights never illuminate

I ride a motorcycle and I give Teslas a lot of cushion when riding behind. They're common enough in the bay area to be treated specially, because of the one pedal driving (my car is set to "creep", but it is still strong at 70mph).

The way the car changes speed and the way the Model S looks from behind, it takes a bit of time before you realize it is getting too big in your PoV without lights coming up, particularly as people lift off through turns or highway onramps.

The cars which are bigger or higher up like an ID4 or Rivian seem to not suffer from this sort of "hidden width" that the Tesla has, the wheel flares melt into the backdrop when looking at it.

I don't think Technology Connections is ever going to drive a Tesla or test it, but the low profile fast cars are much harder to figure out speeds off from parallax without the brake lights.

[stanski]

Engine breaking on a motorcycle can be quite significant as well. I've thought about this being a problem there too.

[yial]

In the safety classes I’ve taken, there’s usually been training (albeit brief) of being aware if others are behind you, but building the habit of using the engine to decelerate that you flash your brake lights and or apply enough brake to trigger them without heavily braking.

This was also an issue when I had a larger manual car with a medium size (4.6l) v8.

At lower speeds <45mph, it was entirely possible for me to be significantly decelerating using only the engine, where I would make sure to at least flash my brake lights several times.

[tomatotomato37]

Diesels with a J-brake can also decelerate quite abruptly, though in that case there's still a remarkably loud audio queue from the engine compressing