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by onethought 1120 days ago
United States did partake in the Opium trade in China, even though they were well aware of the harm, and profited from the wars the British and French fought.

Drawing a distinction that the US is completely seperate from the British Empire is pretty dishonest. If you mean the "state" sure, by definition, but it's culture, origin, people, primary (though not official) language all came from the British empire.

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> United States did partake in the Opium trade in China, even though they were well aware of the harm, and profited from the wars the British and French fought.

True, there were US merchants which participated in supplying opium to China. Sometimes representing themselves, sometimes as proxies for British concerns. Also, an argument can be made that the East India Company operated under the influence, if not control, of the Crown. I do not believe the same argument could be made for US involvement, though I could be wrong.

However, unlike the British, the US in the Treaty of Wangxia agreed that any American involved in the opium trade would be prosecuted under Chinese law. Note that this does not absolve those involved in the opium trade prior or subsequent to this treaty for their actions.

> Drawing a distinction that the US is completely seperate from the British Empire is pretty dishonest.

No, it is not. It is a matter of historical fact[0]. Just because one nation can trace ancestry to another does not mean the newer one is answerable for the older one's actions. Are there commonalities between them? Of course.

But they are as distinct as a child is from their parents.

0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War

Aren't Americans of German descent the largest group in the country? I didn't think that Americans of English/British descent were anywhere close (I would guess third at best, after Irish descent)
German-Americans are largest self-identified. But if we're talking about white people, US originated almost entirely by English people until the 1820 wave of German immigration. English are the largest, followed by German, Irish, Italian.
Guess that's why the war of independence was with the germans... ;)