[0zemp2c]

he's clearly in a feud with the Russian DoD, but he's way off thinking that failing to commit the children of the elites' to combat will result in a "revolution"

in fact its the opposite...look closer to home

no one on the Harvard or Yale rowing teams died in the Civil War...they didn't even put on uniforms (and if anyone asked them to, they could pay someone else to go in their place)

fast forward to Vietnam when we decided the elite should fight too...the nation ripped itself apart

fast forward again to the pointless quagmire of Afghanistan...all volunteers, mostly from poor backgrounds...no meaningful public dissent for twenty years

back to Russia, they already have 500k fresh recruits who will soon be ready to deploy...no riots so far

[qohen]

no one on the Harvard or Yale rowing teams died in the Civil War

Don't know know about the rowing team per se, but one of the most important buildings at Harvard is Memorial Hall, which was built to memorialize Harvard students who died in the Civil War fighting for the Union[0].

More info on those casualties[1]:

The walls of the Memorial Hall Transept hold 28 white marble tablets bearing the names of 136 Harvard associates who fell on behalf of the United States Army and Navy during the Civil War. The youngest, Sumner Paine, class of 1865, fell at Gettysburg on July 3, 1863, two years before his intended graduation. The Paul Joseph Revere (plaque 5) listed is the grandson of the famous Paul Revere.

(And, if you look at the names listed on the plaques, you'll see "Revere" isn't the only prominent family-name represented).

And, another even more central building, is Memorial Church, which was built as a memorial to graduates who died fighting in World War I[2] and which also commemorates casualties of WWII and other later wars.

[0] https://websites.harvard.edu/memhall/home-2/buildings/histor...

[1] https://websites.harvard.edu/memhall/home-2/buildings/memori...

[2] https://memorialchurch.harvard.edu/history-0

[dekhn]

Not sure about the Harvard rowing team... https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/03/blue-gray-and... Note that the first person they mention was on the rowing team.

Off to war, from Harvard

Among the first enlistees in the 20th was the patrician Caspar Crowninshield ’60, the rugged lead oar of his College crew team and the sixth from his family to graduate from Harvard. His thoughts turned somber on the train ride south. “I could not help feeling sad as I looked around,” he wrote, reflecting on how “few might ever return.”

Union enlistments: 1,358 College, 608 Medical School, 387 Law School, 285 Lawrence Scientific, 54 Divinity, 23 Observatory, 1 Killed or died of wounds, 110 Died from disease, 63 Died from accidents, 3

[dragonwriter]

> fast forward to Vietnam when we decided the elite should fight too

That's the opposite of what happened with Vietnam, with its limited draft with broader exemptions [0] than previous 20th Century wars.

[0] For a particularly class-specific example, the student deferment by the time of Vietnam extended as long as you were a full-time student making satisfactory progress, and could be kept up until you passed draftable age; in Korea, a qualified student could defer induction until the end of the current term only.

[r721]

>they already have 500k fresh recruits who will soon be ready to deploy

Source?