[throwawayAsdFoo]

The iraq war was based on lies and financial interest. Do you really want to pretend, Saddam was the primary goal? And that nation building was accomplished, sir!

And gaddafi was toppled over french/sarcozy interest.

One who doesn't know history is doomed to repeat it. Post hoc justification of own atrocities is exactly the sort of cognitive failure that patriotic delusion (and thus the future of such) can cause.

[the_af]

Plus neither Iraq nor Libya ended up well. So they are examples of what not to inflict upon a country.

[MSFT_Edging]

The loss of Gaddafi basically put the slave markets into overdrive, destroyed the power grids and water infrastructure, and generally did far more harm than good. Compared to other dictators that the US put in place, Gaddafi was far from the worst.