[mianos]

Or, as for the Subaru Starlink head-unit, even if it is so buggy and crashes all the time, once the car is out the dealer's door, there is nothing the consumer can do.

Even class actions don't mean they would be recalled or even fixed. They did offer a discount on a new car.

[librick]

TLDR; Kia rant: Yea it's bizarre to me how recalls aren't more widespread. The fiasco with Kia cars getting broken into is my favorite recent example. Teenagers break into random stranger's Kias and go on joyrides. Then local news channels and police sensationalize Kia car break-ins or villify bored teenagers. It seems like very few people actually demand recalls by Kia. A car that can be unlocked in the span of a TikTok video is a dangerous car; it's a public safety issue. I'm mostly ignorant of the recall process, but it seems like they should be more widespread than they are

[mschuster91]

> I'm mostly ignorant of the recall process, but it seems like they should be more widespread than they are

Fully agree. The reason is, it's easier (and fits into more popular narratives) to blame Tiktok and Youtube than to hold large corporations accountable.