[jsavimbi]

> nurture a community of real, authentic users.

This is utter BS and the author knows it. The last people you want to fill the role of early adopter are the people of Facebook. Nurture, foster, incubate. That's lazy business people speak for not actually doing any work of note and spending more time networking and that all-consuming fundraising so they can actually hire someone to do the work for them and pay them squat. You know, living the dream that made them go to B-school in the first place.

Facebook-only? That's what lazy people do.

[melissamiranda]

Off base. Facebook login was implement to prevent a Chatroulette problem (nudity and profanity). The Internet Fuckwad theory: normal person + anonymity + audience = total fuckwad (http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Greater-Internet-Fuckwad-Th...) explains why anonymity allows bad behavior.

The decision had nothing to do with laziness, and everything to do with encouraging real identity on the app.

[sofifonfek]

John Gabriel's greater internet fuckwad theory is a joke about people playing video games online, it's not really relevant to the general internet. While chatroulette arguably offers anonymity but the very instant a website requires registration it's not anonymity anymore, it's pseudonymity, a totally different thing. Not using your real world identity but an online identity which according to context holds a certain value to users preventing them to behave as total fuckwad.

If you look at the famous example of the month of eternal september [1], the problem at hand showed a totally different picture, an artificially high number of newcomers overcharging the capacity of the community to properly teach them how to behave [2]. In short when your user base grows organically you have minimal bad behaviour.

Then again if you look at facebook itself you'll find more than the regular share of inane bs and bad behaviour.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September [2]: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/index.html

[ghayes]

Agreed that anonymity brings trolls. What about low-friction sharing that Facebook Auth brings? How did this play into your decision? You said earlier that you used to ask for that authorization AFTER asking for login auth?

[dikbrouwer]

Yes, asking for FB permissions twice was tripping over our users however. What seems to work right now: login with Twitter or username/password, and add FB auth later when a user wants to share. This apparently doesn't feel the same as allowing FB on signup. Makes sense?

[jsavimbi]

No, it's not. Facebook is a ready-made constituency for anyone smart enough to figure out an OAuth plugin. I mean, why would you waste time recruiting and curating a community when you have a population of 500 million to choose from? It's generic and any explanation otherwise betrays the true intentions of the author.

You need to recognize it when you read it.

[thoradam]

> The last people you want to fill the role of early adopter are the people of Facebook.

Could you elaborate on this?

[jsavimbi]

Regular Facebook users who use that platform for their identity are the long tail. They're not the future.