[lorettahe]

There are many good female scientists/engineers/mathematicians. Back in Cambridge University, to start off with, there are many female mathematics students. Considering achievement by people such as Grace Hopper, I don't think we can blame the domination of men down to sex differences. I would rather girls stand up and bravely join the science community regardless whether these communities are male dominated or not.

[lmm]

I studied mathematics at Cambridge University. While there were some very good female students on the course, it's worth recording that the better colleges had smaller proportions of women; New Hall (all-female) had possibly the worst academic reputation, while Trinity (probably best academically) had two girls among my year of 42.

[gorgoroth666]

Let's count the heads and the achievements and see how Grace Hopper is irrelevant.

But you should have thinked about that by yourself; another example of woman logic I guess.

[hythloday]

FWIW, lorettahe, this is exactly the kind of ad-hominem idiocy/misogyny that women encounter[0] and men never do[1]. There's no one big issue keeping women out of programming, it's just the drip-drip-drip of "you're different from us and we don't want you here" that 50% (then 65%, then 80%, then 95%...) of the candidate pool simply never hear or see unless they make an effort to.

[0] This moron got downvoted because downvoting is not socially awkward; how many times do you see a social smack-on-the-wrist in a face-to-face conversation?

[1] I'll donate £5 to a charity of your choice for every time someone comes up with an attributed accusation of using "man logic" in a discussion related to programming.

[nnythm]

it's man logic to promote denigrating terms against men in an effort to better the plight of women.

[hythloday]

I'm afraid I'm not sure what your point is (is it objecting to the word "misogyny"?)--could you elaborate?

[nnythm]

The idea of encouraging the term of "man logic" is man logic. Misogyny is clearly a problem, but saying, "oh but men are dumb too" is not the right way to go about fixing it.

[hythloday]

I definitely wasn't encouraging the invention of the term "man logic"--I was pointing out that no-one even thinks about calling things "man logic". That's the dichotomy at play here.

[icebraining]

Where was the encouragement?